An Evangelical Manifesto
This document was written by Os Guinness and many other evangelical leaders. There will probably be some talk about it over the coming weeks...
Thursday, May 08, 2008
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This document was written by Os Guinness and many other evangelical leaders. There will probably be some talk about it over the coming weeks...
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"Evangelical" leaders like Richard Mouw and Jim Wallis?
Something doesn't smell right.
Wow, I like it. Be interesting to see it discuss on solapanel.
What's your problem with Jim Wallis, Daniel? Does his compassion bother you?
David, lay off the ad-hom or disappear.
i'm with you DC - i hate it how jim wallis has compassion!
compassionate people give me the creeps...
David, lay off the ad-hom or disappear.
Well, you should know that the latter simply isn't going to happen.
As the the idea of ad hom, I'm rather sorry for suggesting that Jim Wallis was compassionate - I'll try not to do it in future.
I know I'm wasting my breath, but it seems you can't disagree with someone without putting a nasty little sting in the tail. It is sick.
Here's what you could have said - "Dan, I disagree. I think Jim Wallis is an excellent evangelical leader."
David I reckon (I've thought this for some time) that for someone who claims to be all about tolerance and peace, you are one of the most violent and agressive commenters on this blog. It's very unattractive.
I love comment moderation.
Yes, djp, your response is one of several that popped into my mind (almost wrote 'poped'...hmm).
It's going to be worth a careful read, anyway, and it's good to see some distance being put between theological evangelicals and political evangelicals.
I've read it twice now, and will need to do so again.
The word 'judgement' occurs once, and not with reference to God.
At second reading, there is no clear explanation of what the resurrection is about.
These are early responses only, and I am keen to go back and see if the idea of divine judgement is clearly stated. I would have thought it would be linked in some way to the resurrection (see Acts 17:31), and will need to look more closely to see if I've missed it.
These days when I read that a document has been signed by "evangelical leaders", I get a sinking feeling in my stomach. I'm sorry to be so cynical...but "evangelical" is such a fluffy term these days...
This is at least an attempt to sharpen things up a bit. I'm blogging a few more responses here.
There is a political edge to what they are saying, and a good one too, but the more closely I read it the more I wonder at why they've chosen some of their language the way they have.
David I reckon (I've thought this for some time) that for someone who claims to be all about tolerance and peace, you are one of the most violent and agressive commenters on this blog. It's very unattractive.
Thank you kindly for telling me what you really think about me Soph. I find your candour somewhat refreshing.
i confess that i had some hesitations and misgivings before reading the document, but was actually quite impressed and invigorated after taking in the whole of what it addressed.
i am glad they chose not to say that creationism and inerrancy were non-negotiables. for the first, there's very little biblical justification anymore behind whatever latest flavor of anti-natural selection is being put forward; for the latter, somehow we can admit that we can't prove the existence of God, but goshdarnit we have a golden egg this unprovable God laid right here. kind of stupid when you think about it ... not that thinking is a pre-requisite of course in any of these endeavors.
more than anything, i was motivated and energized by the very positive nature of the piece - that it wasn't yet another "here's everything we're against" rant but an effort to make the gospel again a message of good news. imagine that - the gospel being good news. American Christianity has lost this defining characteristic ever since it embraced the neo-con's Jesus bobble-head doll.
perhaps one unintended benefit of the proposal is a clear opportunity to take this EM (Evangelical Manifesto) and align it with the other EM (Emergent Manifesto) and finally have all our EM & EMs in a row without demonizing the other side.
one can only hope...
mike rucker
fairburn, georgia, usa
mikerucker.wordpress.com
And in related news, news of David Castor's untimely death, seemingly eggagerated in the past, have been confirmed here:
http://ctkcaryprayers.blogspot.com/2008/05/may-5-2008.html
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